Fellow Talks: Martial Souls — A Conversation with Jake Pinnick and Ellie Bouttell

Fellow Talks: Martial Souls
with Jake Pinnick and Ellie Bouttell

In this episode of Fellow Talks, host Liu Qiang meets Jake Pinnick, a 16th-generation inheritor of the Wudang Sanfeng lineage who has spent over a decade training and living on Wudang Mountain, and Ellie Bouttell, a Cambridge graduate who chose an unconventional path to become a professional boxer in China—and a WBC Far East champion.

From the shared philosophy behind martial arts and boxing to the realities of training, fear, failure, and growth, the conversation moves between Taiji’s softness and boxing’s explosive power. Along the way, the guests reflect on cultural exchange, discipline, and what it means to truly commit to a path.

Let’s dive into a dialogue where different traditions meet—and where East and West find resonance through the body, the mind, and the art of combat.