Fellow Talks: Martial Souls — A Conversation with Jake Pinnick and Ellie Bouttell

Fellow Talks: Martial Souls
with Jake Pinnick and Ellie Bouttell

In this episode of Fellow Talks, host Liu Qiang meets Jake Pinnick, a 16th-generation inheritor of the Wudang Sanfeng lineage who has spent over a decade training and living on Wudang Mountain, and Ellie Bouttell, a Cambridge graduate who chose an unconventional path to become a professional boxer in China—and a WBC Far East champion.

From the shared philosophy behind martial arts and boxing to the realities of training, fear, failure, and growth, the conversation moves between Taiji’s softness and boxing’s explosive power. Along the way, the guests reflect on cultural exchange, discipline, and what it means to truly commit to a path.

Let’s dive into a dialogue where different traditions meet—and where East and West find resonance through the body, the mind, and the art of combat.

Executive Producer: Wang Xiaohui

Chief Supervisor: Xue Lisheng

Chief Planner: Yu Li

Producer: Zhang Pengpeng

Supervisor: Zheng Wei

Host: Liu Qiang

Chief Director: He Yuchen

Head Writer: Zhao Xiaoye

Executive Editor: Ding Suyun, Cao Chuanchuan

Director of Photography: Li Kai

Camera Operators: Wu Hao, Dong Xiao, Chen Baotao, Ma Wei, Mei Song, Zhao Peng, Wang Xing, Dai Ning

Gaffer: Liang Ze’en

Lighting Technicians: Cao Jianhui, Cao Keli, Sun Pengju, Liu Lei, Liu Ertao

Post-production Director: Xia Tian

Post-production: Wang Xiaofeng, Tian Shaoqing, Jiang Yin, Yao Yu, Feng Zhao, Li Aoxue, Zhang Junhe, Liu Jiaqi

Promotion: Meng Chao, Li Zhao, Jiang Yiping, Su Xiangdong, Wang Yanqing, Ge Lei, Qin Jinyue, Zhang Jing

Artist Coordinator: Guo Yanyan

Stylist: Zhuang Zhuang

Intern：Liu Zhi, Huang Yanbo, Fang Liwe, Pan Danyang

Venue Thanks: Dongdaqiao Boxing Gym

Presented by: China Internet Information Center (China.com.cn) Chinadiplomacy.org.cn

Produced by: Tianhe Chuangge Culture & Media (Beijing) Co., Ltd.